There has been a longstanding debate within the Drupal Community as to whether the framework should be separated from the CMS application. This session therefore serves to provide newbies and experts alike with a general overview of the sometimes contentious debate. It is meant to provide context for a debate that likely will be rekindled as the Community seeks to scope D8. Both sides of the debate will be presented, with an emphasis on explaining why framework adherents continue to push for better separation between the framework and CMS application. Use cases for each will be presented and discussed. This topic is especially relevant as D8 seeks to confront an era defined by the needs of mobile computing and cloud-based services.